Why Lionel Messi deserved to win the Ballon d'Or over Virgil van Dijk | ESPN FC

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  • Published: 03 December 2019
  • ESPN FC's Alejandro Moreno, Steve Nicol and Julien Laurens react to Lionel Messi's sixth Ballon d'Or triumph. The guys examine how Lionel Messi and Virgil van Dijk's seasons for Barcelona and Liverpool compare. Moreno and Laurens argue that Messi was most deserving of the award for "the way he's carried Barca." Nicol contends that Messi may be the best player in the world, but Van Dijk had a better 12 months.

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  • Hung Fei Lee
    Hung Fei Lee  9 hours back

    media n votes is biased toward a need for messi to win. but van dijk deserve more as he is significant to liverpool titles more over messi to barcelona based on overall year progress

    • terry phidaheights
      terry phidaheights  12 hours back

      this isnt the only time van dijk will finish second this season.....mcfc

      • Fidelis Chibwe
        Fidelis Chibwe  22 hours back

        Messi deserved to win

        • Aboubacar Sidick Diaby
          Aboubacar Sidick Diaby  22 hours back

          légende du football Léo

          • YSfifa
            YSfifa  24 hours back

            When they asked if Liverpool would win the champions league with Messi, the most simple answer is 'Yes'. Now not saying VVD isnt important for Liverpool, but as a whole that team is better than Barcelona if you stripped Messi and VVD out the picture. Liverpool would have the best attack in the world if they had Messi, and would still have Alisson who is the best goalkeeper in the world arguably.

            • toto maxwell
              toto maxwell  1 days back

              FAKE BS BALLON D'OR

              • Mewan Dlyngdoh
                Mewan Dlyngdoh  1 days back

                This YouTube channel is so bais..

                • Tik Xiong
                  Tik Xiong  1 days back

                  Messi👍👍👍👍 no question as long as he still there to play... who wants to win the Ballon d’Or will have to wait till he is retiring from soccer.......

                  • Yazz Street
                    Yazz Street  2 days back

                    Ronaldo won the ballon dor when he was at United .. and when he was in Spain .. he’s the goat

                    • hugues dupiton
                      hugues dupiton  2 days back

                      Messi remontada submissive expert 😂😂😂
                      Messi the hoax

                      • Shem Boss
                        Shem Boss  2 days back

                        Messi didn't deserve

                        • devandran
                          devandran  2 days back

                          Messi would be unstoppable if he had choosed Spain over Argentina

                          • The 360 Gaming zone
                            The 360 Gaming zone  2 days back

                            Ronaldo is always my motivation he is very hardworking and the fittest among all football players.

                            • Sammy 10
                              Sammy 10  2 days back

                              Liverpool fan boys logic
                              Robertson best lb
                              Allison best gk
                              Gomez one of the most promising cb
                              Fabinho beast in cdm
                              Firmino attacker with cdm defending stats
                              But vvd carried whole defense without vvd liverpool has poor defense xD like really

                              • Rosario Nunez
                                Rosario Nunez  2 days back

                                He only plays well with Barcelona outside of that “nada”

                                • Marc Lamparter
                                  Marc Lamparter  21 hours back

                                  What r u talking about? He plays great for Argentina as well. Or do u HV the inside scoop on some secret team he plays for?

                              • Abu Mansaray
                                Abu Mansaray  3 days back

                                lol, Ronald's states were better last season than Mess's states this season🤔

                                • Gordon Owens
                                  Gordon Owens  3 days back

                                  Mani was ranked 4th?!! Mani should have won, he never gives up makes incredible goals, involves his teammates to win games. Messi is not a clutch player and his time has past.

                                  • Jayden Jones
                                    Jayden Jones  3 days back

                                    If were being honest messi should have 7 and Ronaldo should have 3
                                    Messi should have won it in 2012/13 (not Ribéry and definitely not Ronaldo) Ribéry had 11 goals 24 assists and yes he won the champions league but he had 1 goal and 5 assists, Ronaldo had 55 goals 12 assists in 55 games 0 trophies, Messi had 60 goals 15 assists in 50 games and a domestic double. Suarez should have won it in 2015/16 he had 59 goals 22 assists in 58 games with a domestic double Ronaldo had 51 goals 15 assists and the champions league as well as the euros however he didn’t have major contributions in the KO stage so that one is debatable but I’d give it to Suárez. and in 2018 it shouldn’t have been Modrić but it also shouldn’t have been Ronaldo, Mbappe should have won it he had 21 goals 15 assists and won the World Cup. Should be messi 7 Ronaldo 3 but the media wants to create the rivalry so I get it.

                                    • Shauka Hodan
                                      Shauka Hodan  2 days back

                                      Stevie is "worldwide liverpool fans in a nutshell".

                                  • Brian Payne Jr
                                    Brian Payne Jr  3 days back

                                    5:05 will forever be spoken, you cannot deny the facts and stats he has put up throughout his career. CR7 is a phenomenal player and athlete but there is only 1 GOAT

                                    • Shauka Hodan
                                      Shauka Hodan  2 days back

                                      somehow Barça even would have lost with less goals than 4 (where Barça would have won in aggregate) against Liverpool then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

                                  • Emmanuel Alagbala
                                    Emmanuel Alagbala  3 days back

                                    What more should Van Dijk have done to help Liverpool or The Netherlands? Everyone is comparing Van Dijk as an attacker to Messi as an attacker instead of Van Dijk as a defender to Messi as an attacker.

                                    • Sniper Headshot
                                      Sniper Headshot  3 days back

                                      Scoring 50 goals in a season in normal for Messi but a lifetime dream hard to realize for most of the players...

                                      • okow tina
                                        okow tina  3 days back

                                        Messi definitely carried Barca but Liverpool improves immensely once VVD entered that club

                                    • faisikv faisikv
                                      faisikv faisikv  3 days back

                                      Messi is the best football history ever ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

                                      • John Adan
                                        John Adan  3 days back

                                        Good for him

                                        • okow tina
                                          okow tina  3 days back

                                          In this guy had ...if Barca is wining..is because of Messi...if is loosing..is ...because of......Liverpool 😂😂😂😂😂

                                      • Future Gaming
                                        Future Gaming  3 days back

                                        Messi does not deserve it virgil did better

                                        • RichieBRZ16
                                          RichieBRZ16  3 days back

                                          Of the top 7 players voted 4 of them are Liverpool players. Van Dyk is great but he has way more help than Messi. Messi is clearly the best also most valuable. End of story.

                                          • Thapelo Kgoadi
                                            Thapelo Kgoadi  3 days back

                                            Still not the greatest in my opinions put the oldies in this time they match or even better his records,one that comes to mind is Eusebio,in my opinion he should be in the GOAT conversation.

                                            • Priestc12345
                                              Priestc12345  3 days back

                                              It’s painful listening to Ale

                                              • mixio hili
                                                mixio hili  3 days back

                                                You are the best

                                                • ntahla gaming
                                                  ntahla gaming  3 days back

                                                  van Dijk quite poor this season and Ronaldo slumped badly.
                                                  Messi deserved it more than any other player this year

                                                  • Pt Bot
                                                    Pt Bot  3 days back

                                                    Then explain how Luca Modric won the Ballon D'or last year. Messi put up practically the same goal and assist stats. Won the La Liga. All just like THIS year. But why did he not deserve Ballon D'or last year too. Modric wasn't even the one to carry RM. RM still had ronaldo, and even Bale, who contributed to their CL win. If we're gonna give Ballon D'or to the player with best stats, only messi and ronaldo should win them in the past 10 years.

                                                    if you look at barca and liverpool roster last year, then you can;t say Barca is deficient. Their players just didnt play to their full potential. Meanwhile, VVD transformed Liverpool entire defence and lifted the whole team's performance. He made Joe Gomez, Matip, Loven into world class defender. His solid defence gave platform to the workman midfield with the like of Hendo, Gini, Milner to play so well.

                                                    What did Messi do to lift his fellow player?

                                                    • mixio hili
                                                      mixio hili  3 days back

                                                      lool so funny,i thought only champions league winners win the balon d 'or. so funny ronaldo was top goal scorer in 2017/18 season and helped madrid win their hatrick but di

                                                  • Tao of Paul
                                                    Tao of Paul  3 days back

                                                    There is no criteria so everyone’s right

                                                    • Guillermo Fernandez
                                                      Guillermo Fernandez  3 days back

                                                      These people swear that Messi’s team isn’t surrounded by some of the best players in the world 😂 *specifically picked at their best moments to play with him*

                                                      • Shiyam Khaled Chowdhury

                                                        Agreed. He carried them both in LaLiga(top scorer) and UCL(top scorer. You can't judge him by just 90 min of 2nd leg, not to mention how good he was in the 1st leg. If somehow Barça even would have lost with less goals than 4 (where Barça would have won in aggregate) against Liverpool then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

                                                        • Shauka Hodan
                                                          Shauka Hodan  3 days back

                                                          Stevie is "worldwide liverpool fans in a nutshell".

                                                          • John Cornell
                                                            John Cornell  3 days back

                                                            Messi doesn't seem to turn up in the big CL away knockout games. Mediocre at Liverpool in 2019, mediocre at Roma in 2018, mediocre at PSG and Juventus in 2017 and mediocre at Atletico on 2016.
                                                            I see a pattern.
                                                            Even Van Dijk scored more CL knockout away goals last season.........and he's a defender.

                                                            • Joao Flores
                                                              Joao Flores  3 days back

                                                              Ronaldo was rob last year

                                                              • Shauka Hodan
                                                                Shauka Hodan  3 days back

                                                                one or no defense could stop him. Watch, Dijk can’t dominate 5 or 10 years from now.

                                                            • Bogdy Bogdy
                                                              Bogdy Bogdy  3 days back

                                                              In this guy had ...if Barca is wining..is because of Messi...if is loosing..is ...because of......Liverpool 😂😂😂😂😂

                                                              • Jason Caruana
                                                                Jason Caruana  3 days back

                                                                Messi definitely carried Barca but Liverpool improves immensely once VVD entered that club

                                                                • John Cornell
                                                                  John Cornell  3 days back

                                                                  @Jason Caruana
                                                                  Indeed. Barca had Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol (World and European Champions with Spain). We see that Barcelona haven't won the CL again since the days of Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol. I don't know why some people seem to insist only Messi turned Barcelona into such a great team.
                                                                  Liverpool hadn't reached a CL final for 12 years. 4 months after Van Dijk joined, they did. Then they won it the following year.

                                                                • Jason Caruana
                                                                  Jason Caruana  3 days back

                                                                  John Cornell agree during the past 15 years Barca would still have won a champions league and definitely a few league titles without him, Liverpool well we are seeing what they have become with VVD on defence

                                                                • John Cornell
                                                                  John Cornell  3 days back

                                                                  Yep. The difference is staggering. Barcelona were already Champions League winners in 2006 before Messi had an impact.

                                                              • Mohammed Bazil
                                                                Mohammed Bazil  3 days back

                                                                If any one can stop messi10 its only cr7 (i know last year luka won)

                                                                • Tauqeer Ahmad
                                                                  Tauqeer Ahmad  3 days back

                                                                  Goood video

                                                                  • david padilla
                                                                    david padilla  3 days back

                                                                    The question should be why he didn't deserve to win the trophy over van dijk i will answer that with 3 words he got robbed yes van dijk got robbed messy had no business winning that trophy he didnt do much of anything for his club or his national team but van dijk won the champions league and i think he was the top scorer in that competition fifa got it wrong just because your messy or ronaldo diesnt mean you automatic win it and excluding the other top players that won more tgan this 2 it was rigged tgey wanted messy to win it no matter if you didnt win tge champions shame on the organizers of this award they gave that ballon de or to the wrong player shame on them messy didnt do enough to win it messy and barcelona fail to go the finals and liverpoil deserve to win it that's why this award was rigged van dijk beat messy and barcelona to get to the champions final and win it shame on them van dijk got robbed big time please do the right thing messy give that trophy back to van dijk the player that deserve to win it !! What a shame!!

                                                                    • John Cornell
                                                                      John Cornell  3 days back

                                                                      Too many people voted for other Liverpool players like Mane. Van Dijk only missed out by 7 votes, sadly.

                                                                  • okow tina
                                                                    okow tina  3 days back

                                                                    Alisson has more to do with the CL title than VVD.

                                                                    • cristiano Alves
                                                                      cristiano Alves  3 days back

                                                                      Moreno will never stop riding messi wagons

                                                                      • Klopp AllTheWay
                                                                        Klopp AllTheWay  3 days back

                                                                        I got only 2 questions, where was Messi when Barca needed only one goal to reach the final? And where was VVD when Liverpool need 4 goals and a clean sheet?

                                                                        • John Cornell
                                                                          John Cornell  2 days back

                                                                          @Klopp AllTheWay
                                                                          Messi doesn't seem to turn up in the big CL away knockout games. Mediocre at Liverpool in 2019, mediocre at Roma in 2018, mediocre at PSG and Juventus in 2017 and mediocre at Atletico on 2016.
                                                                          I see a pattern.
                                                                          Even Van Dijk scored more CL knockout away goals last season.........and he's a defender.

                                                                        • Klopp AllTheWay
                                                                          Klopp AllTheWay  3 days back

                                                                          John Cornell those people r clueless. Messi won because they used to vote for him, not as he was the best player last season.

                                                                        • John Cornell
                                                                          John Cornell  3 days back

                                                                          Indeed.

                                                                      • Eternity Derek Drums
                                                                        Eternity Derek Drums  3 days back

                                                                        lol messi carried barcelona to were??? lol to always losing either in the quater finals or the semifinals?? lol look what happened to madrid when ronaldo left, you guys are so hypocritic and ronaldo haters, you robed him and you are not fair at all

                                                                        • okow tina
                                                                          okow tina  3 days back

                                                                          Messi has been better before, but even van Dijk would vote for him now. I'm glad Messi will now likely end up ahead of Cristiano in terms of number of Ballons d'Or won when

                                                                      • Eternity Derek Drums
                                                                        Eternity Derek Drums  3 days back

                                                                        lool so funny,i thought only champions league winners win the balon d 'or. so funny ronaldo was top goal scorer in 2017/18 season and helped madrid win their hatrick but didn't get the balon, now messi aint never won no champions league in years now, but he wins??? i have no words for this kind of corruption, messi won but it doesn't change anything, ronaldo won his sixth balon d 'or already wether you gave him or not. why didn't van dyk win?

                                                                        • John Cornell
                                                                          John Cornell  3 days back

                                                                          No, only Barcelona and Madrid players win this award is more like it.

                                                                      • Ben Shoshani
                                                                        Ben Shoshani  4 days back

                                                                        definitely Messi - after all he won a non-competitive league, scored less than Lewa, had the same per game stats as Mbappe, failed with Argentina, failed in the UCL, failed in the cup finals, Barca would have won the league without him.
                                                                        and Van Dijk? - finished a season without being dribbled by, was a major factor in his team having the 2nd highest amount of points in Europe(10 over barca), won the UCL after winning Barca, won the Super Cup

                                                                        definitely, Messi deserves it he scored way more goals than Van Dijk and the reason he really got is that he has way way more youtube highlights videos and Instagram followers. if it was based on football and common sense Messi would have been around 5th but its a prom queen contest and Messi is the most popular girl in school

                                                                        • John Cornell
                                                                          John Cornell  3 days back

                                                                          Messi doesn't seem to turn up in the big CL away knockout games. Mediocre at Liverpool in 2019, mediocre at Roma in 2018, mediocre at PSG and Juventus in 2017 and mediocre at Atletico on 2016.
                                                                          I see a pattern.
                                                                          Even Van Dijk scored more CL knockout away goals last season.........and he's a defender.

                                                                      • Ben Shoshani
                                                                        Ben Shoshani  4 days back

                                                                        saw the stupid name for the video, clicked and then saw stupid Moreno... all makes sense now.
                                                                        you remove Messi from Barca and they still win La Liga. in 20 years i wont say remember Messi in 18/19, ill say remember that season no one got passed Va Dijk? that was as amazing as 90 calendar year goals. Messi shouldnt have been even top 3 for last season. only groupies can agree with this